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ogremasch

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I have resumed the building of my bridge for the spaceship Invictus. This post will be a build log and place for general discussion. 

The shipyard is in Louisville KY however it is not currently open to the public. once I get the details ironed out and all the hardware functioning I may invite people over but right now its just me and some random friends from time to time ( several months in between currently but It may become a regular thing).

I have the stations framed out but they are in need of play testing before I put more shape/reinforcement to them. 

The below video is an updated version of my planned bridge layout. the side stations are more vertical as seen in the pictures. 

I am using old PC's that I have salvaged to run this game plus my main PC as a Server. so far its all running well but not perfect. Hardware upgrades are planned for if this becomes a regular thing.

I'll post more pictures as time goes on and I'll even put my plans online if you guys want. 

My plan as it stands right now is as listed below:
1.) establish functionality
     a.  Frame work completion including monitor mounts and wiring for power, network connectivity and sound
     b.  Play test and address changes or necessary repairs.
2.) Enhance stations and upgrade hardware
     a.  Lights, looks, buttons... etc... Maybe design some custom consoles for use in place of the mouse and keyboard
     b. replace mice with trackpad on 1 station and see what the play group thinks of that as a control device (my consoles are sloped with the idea being to upgrade to custom buttons over time and the mice are likely to slide off is i don't install a trackpad instead of a standard mouse)
     c. Looking for possible replacements to the monitors as well as the PCs that run the game. Cheap and efficient are the two main considerations after the devices capability to run the game. 
3.) Enhance ship
     a.  DMX
     b.  walls and hatch
     c.  main screen (rear projection vs LCD Screen?)
     d.  additional buttons and viewscreens showing information or for use as portholes. (may take the submarine approach and just pretend that there are no direct windows on the bridge of the ship)


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I think your on the right track as far as development of your set up. I spent 6 months just playing around with seating arrangements, so I am definitely in the slow and steady development mentality camp.
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That looks wonderful! Do you have a designation of which station should be in which location? Or do you plan on letting crew members swap them around?
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Good start!  Any chance you'll be making it to Armada?  There will be lots of builders and DMX'ers there to talk shop [smile]
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Good start!  Any chance you'll be making it to Armada?  There will be lots of builders and DMX'ers there to talk shop [smile]



Boy howdy will there. Seems like the builder aspect has exploded recently and there is a bigger pool than ever to draw on!


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Not going to make it to this year's Armada. Hope to get in on next year's action though. Armada 2 looked great.

Starting from the captain at the 6 pm mark and working clockwise it will be comms, science, helm, weapons, engineering.

Comms and engineering are two monitor stations. The data screen will be on the second screen for comms and I'm trying to see if there is a way to put the info screen up on the second monitor for engineering. If not it'll likely just be another main screen.

I have some more pics to put up but currently at my day job. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
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Picture heavy post. I attached two i hooks to the stand that came with these monitors. I purchased these monitors on govdeals.com. I think I purchased roughly 21 touch screen monitors (capacitive touch screen) with 1 working pen. They are 15 inch monitors but for this game its pretty perfect. these are heavy duty and I think should hold up to abuse pretty well. If they don't well I have a few spares.


20170320_210226.jpg Top down before adding the 2X6 and the monitor mount ( Turnbuckles)       20170320_210234.jpgtop down of the station with the monitor mounted to it.the gap between the 2x6 and the front controls area (the plywood) is acting as a holder for the monitor. I will be making a more sturdy solution in the future involving a leng of pipe and two clamps but for now gravity is doing the job.

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The mounts had to be flipped upside down to be able to be used in this way. here I have laid out the  parts to the mount, I forgot to show the washer but the washer goes between the nut and the wood piece on the bottom of the J hook.20170320_210837.jpg 

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If there is a way to resize these images so that the post is more readable please let me know I can't seem to get the forum to let me scale these images.

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The seats and console arrangement really make the scene. Looks like a lot of fun!
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Louisville KY, huh? I know there is a ship in Cincinnati Oh and I'm in Dayton OH. maybe we should have a get together some time.
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A get together would be great. I've played 2.3 and tested 2.5 but I hope to get to actually play soon. I used to play a bit online and then got busy with life. I'll be hosting my first game in probably a year on April 1 where I test the setup and then on April 8 I'll be having a few friends over to play. If I can manage it I'll likely stream it on Twitch.

I made the bridge to be portable but it is semi impractical to transport. If I did it over again I'd probably spend the money on touch panel monitors and add flat "wings" on either side that had flip out legs and a bit of cloth to hide the wiring. I don't plan to transport the ship itself but maybe for Armada. I'd seriously have to rent a small uhaul and build custom transport cases for the electronics.

Question for everyone, I'm thinking of getting a projector and doing a rear projection main screen has anyone done that and what pros/cons have you run into?

It seems logical to me because the players would see the screen but when moving about the cabin wouldn't block the projection. I don't want to buy another TV if I can avoid it but the cost of a decent projector is on par with a cheap TV so it's really 50/50 as far as price is concerned.
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You should look at short throw projectors, and depending on how big you want the front screen a mirror.  To use the mirror you would house the projector under the screen and reflect if off the front console on to the screen. or house the projector in the front console (adjusting for steep projection angles).  I have built a map table with a short throw projector for miniatures and I can get the map size to about poster with by almost poster height with only about two feet between the projector and the surface.

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Brunayla, that's a good idea, I'll look it it. Thank you.
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This looks awesome!

I had a car seat that I'd taken out of my Subaru for couple year that I wanted to use to make custom seating for the helm, but finally gave up on it (the mounting brackets on the bottom weren't flat so it was a pain in the butt trying to build up a mount that I could attach to something). I love the seating solution that you have going here! Are the seats on slides/glides so they adjust to the console position?

I solved the projector problem by going with a ceiling mount for the main view screen, but I run my ship in my shop and we have 12 foot ceilings... so that may not be a viable solution for everyone.

Notsabbat mentioned us in his comment, I'm the Cincinnati ship and I think it would be really cool to see other people's solutions to some of the building problems. Even just the stuff on the forums, with more and more people building, has been really cool and helpful to us. Also, I'm organizing my files to finally get around to posting some of our build. I keep saying I'm going to do it, but then I start on a new piece of scenery and want to finish it before posting the next part, repeat over and over!

Anyway, please keep posting... it motivates me to keep at it, as well!

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Thanks, it would be great to meet up and play a few games, maybe a mini Armada or just a BBQ with Artemis too.

All of the seats have their slide/glides on them. I will take better pictures of how I managed to get them to be functional when I get home. Each seat had to be customized as they were a little different.

I really underestimated the customization I needed to go through in order to make the seats functional. I left all of the metal on the bases and attached 2x4s to the slide hardware so people can adjust to their preference and I made the 2x4s long enough to act as a base to prevent tipping.

For the two leather seats on the sides I had to create boxes that had mounting hardware to use the existing connectors on the bottom of the seats. I'm really happy with how it turned out, especially since I can remove the seat from the base for transport (they are really heavy)

I have a pedestal for the captains seat but I may be getting an old office chair base and canabalizing it similar to the way I've seen done on the forums by mounting the base to wood similar to notsabbat I believe.
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Another picture heavy post. I took a bunch pf pictures of the seats and how they are mounted. I can provide more detail if needed. Each base is a little different but the concept is the same. I made the wooden frames so that i could attach them without altering the metal frames of the car seats. I wanted the slide mechanisms to work and they do.
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The pictures of the leatherseat is to show the chair slide still works. 



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This shows some of the spacing and gives a general idea of how the wood frame is put together.


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cable release for removing chair from base


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chair flipped forward the front "hooks" grab the 8 inch bolts and the back claspers clamp closed when the contact the metal bolt. The cable release when pulled releases the claspers






the below picture is  a better view of the hook/claspers arrangement under the chair

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The base shows that the hook and clasper are at two different heights. additionally what isnt pictured is the other chair's catch system(hook/claspers) is slightly smaller so I had to use threaded rod instead of 8 inch bolts in order to fit in the hooks.
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Ignore the dirt on this seat, I got it for free, anyway the base for this one was straight forward, bolt 2x4s to the frame then another set of 2x4s were wood screwed to the bottom to provide the proper height and keep the two sides aligned. they are held in place by wood screws.
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The other benefit to adding a second set of 2x4s is they provide clearance for the bolts



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the bolt head does not interfere with the track system.


The next chairs were some of the most difficult because they are not level on the bottom.

they are designed to slot into the base of the car's cabin on one side and then bolt down on the other side. Well the hole placement, the shape of the front forks and the difference in height from the front to the back meant that I had to get creative. I used Ubolts to slot the front part into and bolted the rear portion to a 2x4. I then drilled a hole in the longer 2x4 that attaches to the small (3inch) block that I used to level things out so that the bolt would fit in the hole that I just drilled. I then wood screwed the back of the long 2x4 to the spacer block. once that was all done I lined up and drilled the holes for the ubolts then tightened them down on the forks of the front. I cut off the extra length of the ubolts and added a 2x6 for spacer/to keep the two sides aligned.


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this picture shows the height difference better.
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