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Hi all -

For years, we've talked about having an official TSN logo. Many people have adopted a variation of the Artemis A as their ships logo, which is great. Thom has decided on an official in game logo for the TSN, which is this:



In game lore, the deep space base is the enduring symbol of the TSN presence throughout it's territory. Silver on a field of blue, the rosette shows the TSN's central focus. The vector chevrons represent the TSN's commitment to exploring and advancing science. The motto, LIBERTAS IUSTUM CULTURAS, is for the TSN's core values of liberty, justice, and human culture.

The staff and volunteers at Armada were wearing badges of the central rosette painted gold for officers and silver for non-commissioned crew. I'll get the 3d files posted here, and I have a more on depth paint guide I hope to do soon [smile]

Marion knocked out a few prototype patches the week before Armada, and should have them in her Etsy shop soon.



That being said, there's no reason you can't keep using the ship logos you've come up with yourself! Artemis is in a big universe, and different ships have used their own logos on a variety of other SF shows. We just thought it would be nice to have a semi official one.

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I saw these at Armada. I really wanted to buy one! I was so jealous of the staff wear them. Marion can you put a link to your Etsy?
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Just to mention it, the logo is featured on the Terran page on the wiki. [biggrin]


I suspect that the Artemis "A" is used as a generic badge, not by the TSN, but by many of the crews. That leaves it as an choice of the individual ship. Plus, most of the previous console badges prominently featured the "A", so it's a general symbol.

I've pointed out in another thread that the Artemis "A" is actually a trapezoid, with no base, and the line across the A is actually a curved line, probably representing a sun coming up behind a planet. In game it probably only RESEMBLES an A, but it's more abstract than that.

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The badges, 3d printed in black ABS (0.3mm layer height). We used 1/4" diameter neodymium magnets (1/8" thick) to keep them on our shirts. The badge has recesses for magnets, as do the backs. Admittedly, we probably could have just used steel strips for the backs instead...

I've got a better paint job I'm planning on doing for the official ones, but this was all we had time for. The design for the badges and patches weren't done until literally the week before Armada.

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The Artemis "A" is part of the logo of the game.

The Rosette is a logo of the TSN within the game.

By next Armada we should have more iconography, including something for the Ximni.

For the record, the new video missions really solidify why the game mechanics are about flying TSN and Ximni starships, but the name of the game must be "Artemis." When you make a ton of videos with characters talking to the players, the players' ship must have a name. Calling the game itself "Artemis SBS" gives these missions a good level of immersion, with a starship name upon which we can all agree.

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I still want to wear my Rosette in the center of my chest like Ironman instead of the Star Trek position over the right breast. [smile]
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Nobody's stopping you from relocating your badge - we have an official badge, not an official uniform or badge-ing etiquette [tongue]
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By next Armada we should have more iconography, including something for the Ximni.


That would be awesome. The Pirates need a flag too. [biggrin]

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For the record, the new video missions really solidify why the game mechanics are about flying TSN and Ximni starships, but the name of the game must be "Artemis." When you make a ton of videos with characters talking to the players, the players' ship must have a name. Calling the game itself "Artemis SBS" gives these missions a good level of immersion, with a starship name upon which we can all agree.


Agreed. We don't know what the Artemis is (other than, presumably, a Light Cruiser) but the name must be important or it wouldn't be the name Thom made available for the players to identify with. The Artemis is as much a character as any of the players of the game. Which is not to say we can't create our ship and give it a character of our own, but "Artemis" (or "Enterprise" or "Galactica")
is still the ideal we're aspiring for.
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Is the STL file going to be released to the public? I wouldn't mind printing out a few for crew use.

ParPar, here is the shop link: https://www.etsy.com/shop/MRKArtisticThreads/items

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That would be awesome. The Pirates need a flag too.


The Skull that was hidden on the official Armada III shirts looked pretty space piratey, methinks it would be a top candidate for their symbol.

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This is the official commissioned officer paint scheme for the Badge, I just didn't have time to finish it before the convention.

Rosette Painted 01.png  Rosette Painted 02.png 
Our solution for holding the badges on was neodymium magnets - these 1/4" diameter ones from K&J Magnetics.  We ended up using 4 on the main part, 2 in the top hole and 2 in the middle, then 2 more on the printed back.  There are 5 holes for magnets, depending on what kind of pull you need [smile]

We had them blasted out through a printer on 3D Hubs at 0.3mm layer height just to get them done in time for the convention, but they looked ok with a coat of paint from 5' away.  That's the general cosplay rule of thumb, right?  The 5' rule?

The back, printed holes up, obviously won't need any supports.  The front, printed holes down, may need supports if your printer can't handle a 0.25" bridge for the magnet sockets.  We did about 15% infill, which was probably generous, and 1mm shell thickness in ABS.

Badge Front: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlwahfvrzt3wylo/Rosette%20Front.stl?dl=0
Badge Back: https://www.dropbox.com/s/08itfxnys1v56mt/Rosette%20Back.stl?dl=0


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The Skull that was hidden on the official Armada III shirts looked pretty space piratey, methinks it would be a top candidate for their symbol.


YES! I thought that was cool. I love showing that to my friends. "Look at this cool Artemis shirt I got from Armada. It glows in the dark"

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This is the official commissioned officer paint scheme for the Badge, I just didn't have time to finish it before the convention.

Rosette Painted 01.png  Rosette Painted 02.png 
Our solution for holding the badges on was neodymium magnets - these 1/4" diameter ones from K&J Magnetics.  We ended up using 4 on the main part, 2 in the top hole and 2 in the middle, then 2 more on the printed back.  There are 5 holes for magnets, depending on what kind of pull you need [smile]

We had them blasted out through a printer on 3D Hubs at 0.3mm layer height just to get them done in time for the convention, but they looked ok with a coat of paint from 5' away.  That's the general cosplay rule of thumb, right?  The 5' rule?

The back, printed holes up, obviously won't need any supports.  The front, printed holes down, may need supports if your printer can't handle a 0.25" bridge for the magnet sockets.  We did about 15% infill, which was probably generous, and 1mm shell thickness in ABS.

Badge Front: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlwahfvrzt3wylo/Rosette%20Front.stl?dl=0
Badge Back: https://www.dropbox.com/s/08itfxnys1v56mt/Rosette%20Back.stl?dl=0



Thanks for these!


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This is the official commissioned officer paint scheme for the Badge, I just didn't have time to finish it before the convention.

Rosette Painted 01.png  Rosette Painted 02.png 
Our solution for holding the badges on was neodymium magnets - these 1/4" diameter ones from K&J Magnetics.  We ended up using 4 on the main part, 2 in the top hole and 2 in the middle, then 2 more on the printed back.  There are 5 holes for magnets, depending on what kind of pull you need [smile]

We had them blasted out through a printer on 3D Hubs at 0.3mm layer height just to get them done in time for the convention, but they looked ok with a coat of paint from 5' away.  That's the general cosplay rule of thumb, right?  The 5' rule?

The back, printed holes up, obviously won't need any supports.  The front, printed holes down, may need supports if your printer can't handle a 0.25" bridge for the magnet sockets.  We did about 15% infill, which was probably generous, and 1mm shell thickness in ABS.

Badge Front: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlwahfvrzt3wylo/Rosette%20Front.stl?dl=0
Badge Back: https://www.dropbox.com/s/08itfxnys1v56mt/Rosette%20Back.stl?dl=0


Can the front be printed upside down to avoid using supports?

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Printing it upside down would virtually guarantee the need for supports for the front.  I don't think the 1/4" gap for the magnets will be too much of a chore for most printers, and the supports can be removed with a pair of needle nose pliers if they are needed.  Plus, since they're just recesses for the magnets, you could drill it back out with a 1/4" drill bit to clean it up.
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