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Ahem. 

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whoa.
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Mark; Your reaction is the correct one. And mirrors my own. Cant wait.
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Holy Toledo! CBS has copied the design of my Artemis bridge, right down to the knee walls and steam radiators!

There's no sign of a teacup, but I swear I see four barrels of wine on the bridge. Picard's French side is showing. I'll add wine barrels to my next bridge update.

They've thrown down quite a gauntlet with those holographic control panels. Any idea how we could make those a reality?

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There's a few options, depending on if we want them to be static interfaces or just displays.  You can make a holographic display with an 4-sided truncated pyramid and a flat display where the peak would be, although that takes a lot of real estate.  You could make a pseudo-holographic display with a sheet of semi-transparent-silver-backed plexiglass and a mini projector- it'd not be perfect, and the angles would be tricky, but it might be cool to try.  The control inputs could use a kinect for hand motions, like from Steel Battalion 2.
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Wine barrels sound like a great addition to me!

Another option for a close-enough-to-be-cool faux holographic control panel with a static display would be to combine an edge-lit plexiglass panel with a clear touch overlay. Edge-lit acrylic is relatively easy to do with simple parts. Lots of commercial electronics have capacity touch interfaces, but I don't think the arrays are actually clear -- they're just positioned behind the screen. Might be doable with a resistive touch screen overlay (which is clear), but it often requires a bit of finger pressure, which might ruin the effect.

For a dynamic display, I've seen examples of the tech Mark mentioned. Those would be really cool. If cost was not a problem, a multi-layered acrylic display or an acrylic display with a laser/dot array would also work - but it would take quite a while to setup.

Example edge-lit acrylic (note that the lights only really need to go at the bottom, which would make the display much closer to what we're talking about):
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Ive had some success making arduino controlled capacitive touch controls. Never quite got them to the point where I would feel comfortable using them in combat, but they did work. You can use any conductive material to make them. Ive used epaint and I know that there are companies that sell condyctive plastic. It is even possible to make transparent plastic with a conductive coating if you are motivated enough.

There are places to start.

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Ive had some success making arduino controlled capacitive touch controls. Never quite got them to the point where I would feel comfortable using them in combat, but they did work. You can use any conductive material to make them. Ive used epaint and I know that there are companies that sell condyctive plastic. It is even possible to make transparent plastic with a conductive coating if you are motivated enough.

There are places to start.


conductive plastic -- will need to check that out!
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Capacitive touch screen would be pretty sweet!  https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-capacitive-touch-sensor-breakouts/build-a-capacitive-touch-control-panel is a way to do it with copper tape pads behind plastic, although it might lose the holographic look.  Alternately, you could use an Indium Tin Oxide (ITO) coated plastic and create traces by selectively removing the coating from different areas by gently scraping.  https://www.adafruit.com/product/1309 The ITO is conductive but transparent, so you could lay it on top of an etched acrylic sheet (probably etched from the back) and use capacitive touch sensing for discrete button pushes.  I've used it before as an EMI shield for an LCD display, just laid it over the screen and used copper tape on the edges to grounded the electronic noise that was affecting the capacitive glass touch buttons nearby.  ITO isn't usually all that cheap, but the small panels aren't too bad (also on Amazon).  
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The ITO was specifically what I was thinking of when taking about conductive coating on plastic.
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Nice!  Yeah, it's not exactly cheap, but it's a really slick way to do interfaces.  I had gotten a roll of it for work several years ago, and on the company credit card $600 for the roll didn't seem bad at all 😋

EDIT: These aren't actually a bad price, and the sheets are big enough to do some decent displays https://www.thorlabs.com/newgrouppage9.cfm?objectgroup_id=9535

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