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Gryphon

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Outfit your entire crew with sharp-looking matching service uniforms in a single afternoon with off-the-shelf big box store components:

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Service Uniform Components Pictured:

Undershirt - George Men’s Classic Mock Neck available at Walmart for $7.88

http://www.walmart.com/ip/George-Big-and-Tall-Men-s-Mock-Neck-Shirt/44187057


Pants - No Boundaries Twill Men’s Jogger available at Walmart for $14.84

http://www.walmart.com/ip/No-Boundaries-Twill-Men-s-Jogger/44669607


Tunic - Faded Glory Men’s Long Sleeve Flatback Vee available at Walmart for $9.88

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Faded-Glory-Men-s-Long-Sleeve-Flatback-Vee/46157079


Shoes - Black mono Converse Chuck Taylor All Star High-Top Sneakers available at JC Penney’s for $54.99

http://www.jcpenney.com/converse-chuck-taylor-all-star-high-top-sneakers-unisex-sizing/prod.jump?ppId=pp5004360169&N=658&searchTerm=athletic+shoes&topDim=Brand&topDimvalue=converse&dimCombo=Brand%7C&dimComboVal=converse%7C&currentDim=Brand&currentDimVal=converse&N=658&catId=SearchResults&_dyncharset=UTF-8



Colors Pictured: First combo, Bordeaux mock neck with Soot Black tunic; second combo, Soot Black mock with Storm Blue tunic; third combo, Light Grey Faux Heather mock with Wine Heather tunic. Substitute women's slim-fit black pants and tailor the men's tunics at their waists to fit female crew members, if necessary.


Insignia:

Star Services Pin (earrings from Jewelry Clearance section $1.00 and Pin Backs from Crafts section at Walmart, different styles ranging from $1.25 to $3.77 - I had some already - use superglue or JB Weld to attach pin backs)

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(I will probably clip out the lower bar with the ring to make the pin look more like an Artemis "A")


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Collar Rank Pips from Harbor Freight for $2.88



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I already have a set uniform but this is really well done!   Great job!!!  I can see some of these being used at the Armada!
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Those are magnificently sharp, Gryphon! Thank you!
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And FWIW, my belief is that the soot black mock in photo #2 is great, but the soot black tunic in photo #1 could be a problem on video. A seated crew member shot by a hand-held camera would look like a disembodied floating head. That won't matter to most crews, but a crew that wants to play a Canonical Battle at Artemis Armada should not consist of six floating heads. [wink]
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And FWIW, my belief is that the soot black mock in photo #2 is great, but the soot black tunic in photo #1 could be a problem on video. A seated crew member shot by a hand-held camera would look like a disembodied floating head. That won't matter to most crews, but a crew that wants to play a Canonical Battle at Artemis Armada should not consist of six floating heads. [wink]


I agree.  Also, there's just not enough color/contrast, which is why the 2 colored shirts pop better.

also consider tucking in the shirt and wearing a belt.  That way you can hang a phaser, tricorder and communicator on it.

Excellent shopping.  The most expensive piece is the shoes.  Otherwise, the parts list should be well within most crew members' ability to afford, barring direst of budgets.
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I've been thinking of matching the color of the shirt to the color on the station patches I bought, yellow (or gold) for Helm, red for Weapons, grey for Engineering, blue for Science and Green for comms. Then instead of gold for Captain, I saw a maroon or burgundy shirt that I liked for the Captain color. I was considering using an undershirt with an open jacket, but the tunic over an undershirt looks nice, very Next Generation.
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The first combination looks like a security chief to me. It is perfect to hide in dark edges and find the culprit!

And all of it is great!

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I'm glad you all approve. I figured there would be variation between crews regarding detailing like sleeve stripes, patches, pins, tucked or untucked tunics, belts, shoe or boot types, mock versus turtleneck, undershirt color contrast, etc. I just thought this particular combo made a surprisingly easy-to-assemble, affordable and striking base from which to work and thought I'd share.

Janx, one of the things I discovered while "CO" of a WW2 Red Army reenactment group was that overweight humans who muster for fun, not duty, tend to strenuously resist the wearing of waist-height belts around their tunics if they are required to move or sit, even if it is a mandatory part of the uniform. The loose, unbelted, untucked tunic is far more comfortable over a much broader range of star-faring body types, even though I agree with you that a belt is more utilitarian and looks sharper on slim humans and other sentient bipedal lifeforms with relatively narrow waists. Weapons and gear can be carried on shoulder straps or hung on baldrics or bandoliers just as easily. Ultimately, it's the call of the individual crews and would depend upon their compositions.

Mike, I think the "floating head" thing depends much more upon ambient lighting and bridge station/DMX backlighting than base uniform coloration. Both TSN and TRMN uniforms, for example, are black. Do the crew of the TSN Belisarius or the HMS Valkyrie appear as floating heads in their bridge photos and videos? (The black tunic with burgundy mock is my favorite combo, so I'm being obstreperous.) [wink] 

Edit: I suppose we could add capes....

Edna: No Capes!
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I'll note also that there's usually no need for weapons or equipment on the bridge.

For away team missions, the phasers (blasters?) and communicators can be tucked away under the shirt.
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Less expensive sneakers in the same general style:

http://www.payless.com/mens-kick-leather-high-top/74536.html?dwvar_74536_color=black#start=37

http://www.payless.com/womens-retro-high-top/156414110.html?kpid=156414110&ocid=ps_603&ct=ps_pla&gclid=Cj0KEQjwkqKxBRCIrK_riNm13Z8BEiQAdzdVkC8u7K3IY0lCv-ctiehAztxlob3bWMB5N8g9kaD8arYaAj978P8HAQ


For away teams, the Nerf Elite bandolier design explained:

http://awesomenerfer1999.blogspot.com/2012/08/elite-bandolier-kit-review-becoming.html

available at Walmart for $16.99:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nerf-N-Strike-Elite-Bandolier-Kit/20925210


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and movie studios spend a good ten thousand bucks in wardrobe designs... tsk tsk tsk...
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Thank you for your consideration of the more gravitationally challenged crew members.
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Hey, starfarers come in all shapes and sizes, right?
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Very cool. Might have to put one of these uniforms together.
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Originally Posted by Gryphon
I'm glad you all approve. I figured there would be variation between crews regarding detailing like sleeve stripes, patches, pins, tucked or untucked tunics, belts, shoe or boot types, mock versus turtleneck, undershirt color contrast, etc. I just thought this particular combo made a surprisingly easy-to-assemble, affordable and striking base from which to work and thought I'd share.

Janx, one of the things I discovered while "CO" of a WW2 Red Army reenactment group was that overweight humans who muster for fun, not duty, tend to strenuously resist the wearing of waist-height belts around their tunics if they are required to move or sit, even if it is a mandatory part of the uniform. The loose, unbelted, untucked tunic is far more comfortable over a much broader range of star-faring body types, even though I agree with you that a belt is more utilitarian and looks sharper on slim humans and other sentient bipedal lifeforms with relatively narrow waists. Weapons and gear can be carried on shoulder straps or hung on baldrics or bandoliers just as easily. Ultimately, it's the call of the individual crews and would depend upon their compositions.

Mike, I think the "floating head" thing depends much more upon ambient lighting and bridge station/DMX backlighting than base uniform coloration. Both TSN and TRMN uniforms, for example, are black. Do the crew of the TSN Belisarius or the HMS Valkyrie appear as floating heads in their bridge photos and videos? (The black tunic with burgundy mock is my favorite combo, so I'm being obstreperous.) [wink] 

Edit: I suppose we could add capes....

Edna: No Capes!


Learning all sorts of good stuff today.  Good points about less light crewmembers and tunics vs. tucked in with a belt.

For a baldric, any reason the insignia/badge needs to be on the left (besides tradition)?  With badges worn on the left, the baldric has to be worn on the right shoulder (so it doesn't cover it).  We see Worf on TNG wearing his sash-thing in this fashion.
 Which puts the holster on the left hip, which is great for swords, wrong for guns (on right-handers).

I'd had similar problem putting together a Trek TOS costume and wearing my Phaser.  After much research (aka watching TV), I saw the old show (and even the newer movies) solved it with a belt they only wore while carrying.  Originally, it was like a leather sash with an open pouch for the gun, but later, it was a wide belt they stuck the phaser to.  They also used velcro at times, but I am reluctant to put velcro on my phaser or my soon-to-arrive bluetooth Communicator, as droppage would suck.

I'd be curious to see your costume with the various options for accessories applied (baldric, belt, holding gun/holster/communicator/tech).

On the floating head topic:
Mike's still right.  I'm married to a artist/photographer.  I get nagged about my preference for black all the time because of this reason.  You need contrast/segmentation on the uniform.  The all black example shows no delineation between the top/bottom have of you.  It's monochrome and dark.  Which in a dark room, makes it blend in even more.  So for a well-lit shot, it might look bad-ass, for a pic of players in-action in the typical "dark" rooms we see bridge photos for, it'll be hard to see.  There's a reason, that even though the TNG and beyond shows had black pants and partial black tops, they had a clear delineation to another color.  When DS9 switched to the new uniforms with the colored under-shirt, they still had the grey shoulders, to help provide that contrast.

So all black might look cool, perhaps only use it for special-ops/security roles.
use the simple, yet visible colored tunic=departmental role pattern devised in TOS/TNG

I think what you've got is even better than the Project Draco examples we saw from a few years back.  It's simple, clean, looks good on camera and is less "homemade uniformy"


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