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e4mafia

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Is anyone going to Gencon? And is anyone going to Gencon planning on running their fancy smancy bridge there? There was one souped up bridge last year, but I don't think it had any lights. Looked like it was mostly station-sets and touch screens. Which is still nothing to sneeze at. 

Im hoping to meet some of your there, as the likelihood of me making armada is super low. I can only do just a couple of cons a year, and Gencon is my main jam, and I do a lot of work at PAX. (Really wish I could figure a way to run at PAX, without having to foot the entire bill myself. Wear and tear from the general non-paying audience scares me a bit[a lot] )

ANNNND I'm running my bridge at TotalCon 2020, so there's con number 3. Maybe, just maybe I can figure out how to pull off Armada. Maybe.
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Is anyone going to Gencon? And is anyone going to Gencon planning on running their fancy smancy bridge there? There was one souped up bridge last year, but I don't think it had any lights. Looked like it was mostly station-sets and touch screens. Which is still nothing to sneeze at. 

Im hoping to meet some of your there, as the likelihood of me making armada is super low. I can only do just a couple of cons a year, and Gencon is my main jam, and I do a lot of work at PAX. (Really wish I could figure a way to run at PAX, without having to foot the entire bill myself. Wear and tear from the general non-paying audience scares me a bit[a lot] )

ANNNND I'm running my bridge at TotalCon 2020, so there's con number 3. Maybe, just maybe I can figure out how to pull off Armada. Maybe.


I reached out to them about taking my set up but I didnt get much in the way of a reply. Maybe 2020.

Facebook.com/LAMEcaptainRYAN if you wanna see my bridge
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You gotta do it when event submission opens up. Fill out a form showing what you want to do, and specifics like if you need power, etc. I run seminars there about GM'ing RPGs every year, so I'm used to the process. Typically opens up in January some time. I've never had an event rejected before. You can charge whatever you want per seat. Gencon gets $2 per player hour out of what you charge. So 4 hour RPGs are usually $4 to play in for events where the runner is doing it because they love to. Higher if the runner or group wants to make something for doing it. Cost is rounded up, so a one hour event still goes $2 per ticket to Gencon, anything over that you keep, less %10 if you are charging $20/2 hours or more.

Artemis generally sells pretty well. Here's an example of seats available out of the total for that session, most likely as of the end of the con, so a decent picture of how the event did. As you can see, between approximately 9am - 7pm, it sells very well.

We'll find out soon if anyone is doing it, the event catalog opens up tomorrow 😉
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I reached out to them about taking my set up but I didnt get much in the way of a reply. Maybe 2020.

Facebook.com/LAMEcaptainRYAN if you wanna see my bridge


Oh, also did the convention space owners make building the structure difficult for you? Did you need any special permissions?

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I decided to try for Gencon too late. I talked to another guy that runs 6 bridges of empty epsilon and he said it was a pretty good gig. My concern was that due to my transportation costs and needing a hotel room that the cost would outweigh the amount gained back in tickets. Also I figured I should give myself more time to get the bridge a little better as it takes about 4 to 6 hours to set up, and the same amount to tear down.

I should probably attend Gencon just to see what it's like and get a feel for the event before trying to host Artemis there. I didnt hear back from anyone officially regarding my bridge, I believe it was due to me being past the deadline. I do plan to give it more effort to attend in 2020.
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For the last 3 years I've used air BNB, and haven't regretted it even a tiny bit. I've not played EE at Gencon, I guess I'll look out for it this year. My daughter, who also loves Artemis (and all the super-nerd RPGs like me) is coming with me. Transport for your bridge will be pretty steep I bet. Its such an awesome construct. I'll tell you though, at $12 a head, people running it did just fine on attendance with 5 laptops and an LCD TV, so super fancy isn't necessarily a requirement 😉

I'll take lots of pictures and maybe some video for everyone this year.

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Awesome. 8f I was able to keep the seats full I think it would work out with a few bucks in my pocket, do you think hour long games would be preferred or 30 minutes? Maybe a few scheduled blocks of each so serious players and first timers get a turn at it?

I'm very interested in any Intel you can share.
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I've been at Gencon every year since 2007, and played Artemis there probably 4 or 5 times. Every time I've played and seen, I THINK has been a 60 minute. Slot. I'll take a peek through HighProgrammer's site at the old catalogs to verify.

2012 - all 1 hour slots, Run by ?
2013 - selection of 1 and 2 hour slots. Run by Brian Johnson 
2014 - looks like all 2 hour slots. Some were listed as "some" experience needed, the rest were "none" experience needed. Run by Brian Johnson
2015 - all 2 hours. mix of some and no experience. A couple of different mission scenarios Run by Brian C Johnson
2016 - Beginner - 1 hour sessions. "Some" experience was 2 hour sessions. Run by Game Base 7
2017 - beginners, 1 hour. Experienced, 2 hours.Run by Game base 7
2018 - same as 2017. Not sure who ran it



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We may be going to GenCon this year. We didn't go last year because of a schedule conflict. We're not looking into running an event, though -- would just go as a normal participant.
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Event list comes out tomorrow! I'd love to meet up with you if you end up going. I'm a big fan of Granite City Brewery. Maybe we could grab a bite or a drink. That goes out to anyone reading the thread to. If you'll be at Gencon, gimme a shout!


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You gotta do it when event submission opens up. Fill out a form showing what you want to do, and specifics like if you need power, etc. I run seminars there about GM'ing RPGs every year, so I'm used to the process. Typically opens up in January some time. I've never had an event rejected before. You can charge whatever you want per seat. Gencon gets $2 per player hour out of what you charge. So 4 hour RPGs are usually $4 to play in for events where the runner is doing it because they love to. Higher if the runner or group wants to make something for doing it. Cost is rounded up, so a one hour event still goes $2 per ticket to Gencon, anything over that you keep, less %10 if you are charging $20/2 hours or more.

Artemis generally sells pretty well. Here's an example of seats available out of the total for that session, most likely as of the end of the con, so a decent picture of how the event did. As you can see, between approximately 9am - 7pm, it sells very well.

We'll find out soon if anyone is doing it, the event catalog opens up tomorrow 😉


GenCon alos charges per outlet used in each room...  making the cost overhead even more!

 


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e4mafia

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I forgot about that. I've never used any power in my seminars before, just the Mark I Bio-voice. Looks like 20 Amps is $183 bucks.
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This year looks like this group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/185379318725372/ is running it. They have 3 training ships, $12/1 hour, and 1 full physical bridge (not sure about lighting effects at all) - here's a picture that is from last years Gencon of the "USS Gencon" - [image]  , They are ticketing at $26/2 hours. 
They are running all 4 from 8am to midnight, and one of the training ships stays open overnight. That is hugely ambitious! Whats interesting is that each session is slotted for only 5 players, and in the description they do not mention captain as a station for the players.

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I met the guy(Sir John in the forums I believe) that is running it and his set up is far more portable than mine is and since he is running 3 bridges he can likely recoup the costs, Based on my math I am looking at a very low ROI for running a single bridge in the manner that I do. I would not be able to reasonably afford to make this year's Gen Con unfortunately.

Looking at the costs and possible ticket sales at the going price ( I would not likely be able to compete price wise for what amounts to the same game play).

I am looking for additional conventions to go to and have reached out to SuperCon(GalaxyCon now) and the Louisville Arcade Expo. Technically this is not an arcade game but it is not too far out of the scope that I was hoping to be considered for the event.

anyway, hopefully some more people decide to bring their bridges to the convention but 3 ships either PVP or Coop would be pretty cool.
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3 ship coop would make for an amazing session!

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