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nschlein

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Hi everyone,
I've posted on here a couple times in the last year or so, but thought I'd reintroduce.  I am a librarian and semi-technically inclined individual with just enough savvy to know how much I don't know.  I've run Artemis events with two libraries I work at using library-owned machines, and each time it's getting a bit more elaborate.  (My next foray will include DMX if I can manage it.)

At this point, I am considering getting some computers of my own to take around to other organizations for a very small investment.  The problem is, I don't really speak computer specs and I could use some advice on what I need.


I found an ad from a local (long-time) computer repair/refurb company, which is bulk selling tower CPU/Monitor combos.  The price tag is $869 for five of the following:

Core 2 Duo processor

4GB RAM
80-160GB hard drive
Windows 7 or 10 (you pick)
19" LCD monitor
Keyboard, mouse, and cables included

They're bulky, but I'm reasonably sure these could run the stations and even a normal server with no problem (please correct me if I'm wrong!).  Given recent difficulty with a secondary bridge, however, I'm concerned about them operating as server in heavier load circumstances, or with DMX lighting.


What do people think---
A) Would these be adequate for stations and/or server?
B) What about as a multi-bridge server and/or running lights?
C) Is the $869 price tag reasonable? 

I don't really have a budget to set this up; even $1000 is a stretch, but I might be able to swing $1500 if I could guarantee offsetting income pretty quickly.  I have some friends with networking and IT experience who might supply switches and other used equipment if I ask nicely.

EDIT: I also just found this...
HP TouchSmart 320-1030 20-Inch Desktop, All-In-One, 9 Available, $100 ea.
Model: 320-1030
Processor: AMD Lynx Dual Core A4-3400 Processor 2.7GHz
Form Factor: All-In-One, wireless mouse/keyboard, power supply
Memory: 4GB SDRAM RAM
Storage: HDD, 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Monitor: 20-Inch Screen, AMD Radeon HD 6410D Graphics.
Condition: Used, classroom environment, 9 available now

Is that a better deal?  Seems I'd have to pay for and load Windows 10 on them.

User McUser

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I'd go with the all-in-ones; cheaper and considerably more portable. Only downside might be that repairs on all-in-ones can be a real pain sometimes.

Do you really need Windows 10? Those units probably came with Windows 7 pre-installed which runs Artemis just fine where as Windows 10 does sometimes have problems. (Just look at the "Troubleshooting" area of this forum.)
MarkBell

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Second the All in ones, even for the server. Much easier to handle, and bonus touch screens.
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I'd go with the all-in-ones; cheaper and considerably more portable. Only downside might be that repairs on all-in-ones can be a real pain sometimes.

Do you really need Windows 10? Those units probably came with Windows 7 pre-installed which runs Artemis just fine where as Windows 10 does sometimes have problems. (Just look at the "Troubleshooting" area of this forum.)


Some organizations install Enterprise versions of Windows. These licenses aren't usually transferable. I was qualified for "home use" of the license but when I was laid off I had a problem. It felt shady but I found a cheap copy of Windows 7 Home version for sale online, installed it (seemed legit actually) and was then able to "free" upgrade to Windows 10.

TLDR; Pay attention of the version of OS provided on salvage computers.
BigEd

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You don't need windows at all. I run my Artemis bridge in Ubuntu using wine. I bought a bunch of old computers off of govdeals.com. They did not come with an OS and I couldn't afford windows. I found instructions online how to load Ubuntu with wine. It's been a couple of years, but I will see if I can find the link if you're interested.

Oh, wine is a program that allows you to run Windows applications on Linux. Wine stands for wine is not an emulator.
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I should probably add, I do not do any DMX lighting at all. I have no idea if that is even capable with the Linux version of Artemis in wine.
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