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suave gav

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sorry to spoil your fun arrew the painted on eyes reference was from myself, not sure how it posted as unregistered
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No need to feel bad. Didn't spoil my fun in the slightest.
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lol your eyes are most definitely painted on then
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I am standing up to this.

I made a request. You disagreed and I countered it with reasons. After that you insulted the group I created and play with and used it to try and invalidate the request. Now you are openly posting abusive content. I think this shows your true colours.

My request stands:

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Could we have a selection on the server screen that will give us the ability to disable the "Energy to Torpedo/Torpedo to Energy" conversion function?

I know this may be something that wouldn't be implemented right away, but it would mean crews end up using homing torpedoes as ordnance, instead of just additional energy supplies. Without the option of converting them, the only value would then be as a weapon.

Another option would be to make it a value that could be edited in the artemis.ini file, so the amount of energy gained could be reduced (or even increased).
 


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The first option would require an addition to the UI on the server and would take more work. I do think such a feature would make torpedoes a more viable option as a weapon though, and we would see their use increased. I always thought it was a bit of a shame just to use torpedoes as energy reserves rather than in combat, and every time you fire one, in the back of your mind is "there goes another 100 energy".

The second option may be a very simple change. It is already possible to change the speed and strength of a torpedo in the artemis.ini file, though not the "flight time" (increasing the speed increases the range as the torpedo flies for a number of seconds rather than a particular distance). We have done this in the TSN RP Community, increasing the strength from 20 to 50 to make them more viable ordnance. Although it has led to an increase in their use without making them overpowered, a torpedo is still more valuable when converted to energy. 
 

I will not be deterred by abuse and insults from you. I am a long time player and fan of this game. I believe I have as much right as anyone else to make a request that I would like to see implemented, without having to put up with abuse like that. You continue if you wish, it will only reinforce my point that you are a bully.


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I think Thom should remove the Torp to Energy function completely, replace Homings with P-Shock, eliminate anomalies that give energy, and implement a built-in Ram Scoop.

Just kidding.
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What was the topic of this thread again?

Oh right livestream coding, looking forward to it,hopefully the stream's chat will stay on topic -_-
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What was the topic of this thread again?

Oh right livestream coding, looking forward to it,hopefully the stream's chat will stay on topic -_-



Hear, hear! I am to blame for making a quick suggestion though, lol. Sorry guys!

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Thank you Thorm for an intresting few hours, you realy should do this more offten! glad to see some long standing bugs beeing given the richous smack they deserve.


Im afraid I have to add this though in response to the rediculess escilation thats happend here today.

Arrow.. for gods sake THINK before you post and see various angles of what is being proposed. having options like this benifits everyone. Yes Xavior was against the Mod initialy, hell so was I and im pretty much the one that organised it after getting frustrated with the lack of enemy variety for running missions and restricted elements for scripted missions. haveing said that its high time to abbandon thread as I suspect hitler will be mentioned in a few posts.

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What a load of space whale droppings... Do they have droppings?

Well dear readers let’s look at the posts shall we on this roller coaster into obscurity.

1. Xavier suggests an alteration to the game. To which I say energy is an important mechanic and homings are unlikely to be used as weapons unless their damage is increased.

2. Fish says there is a demand in his group for it and that it’s “not a critical mechanic”. (Direct quote see above.) I explain that I can see how the change would work for their group , (see what a nice understanding guy I am,) and that the ability to change things like the vessel data is a good thing. I point out that the TSN Group has a different approach to energy than others which may work for them but not neccissarily others that don't play their scripted missions. And I put in a few nice comments on how I applaud their stuff as an RPer and that they should play how they like to play. (Olive branches for everyone!)

With the aid of my little computer dictionary if you don’t understand the terminology in conjunction with the comment they take most umbrage too.

Gaming Cheat - N A technique or exploit that gives an unfair or additional advantage over other players.
Gaming Hack - N The utilizing of an additional program or script to produce a result, normally an advantage, not intended by the game’s original programming.

The script that you have allows you to recover energy faster (see above). That’s great that it works for you and soooo many times I said people should play how they want to play. But for many people converting energy from torps is a “critical mechanic”, but not to you perhaps because of your FCS. Hence my comment.

3. To which they attack or insult. Well this is familiar. Xavier says something. I disagree. Attacks ensue. Then he calls in the mods, who fail to rush to Captain Xavier’s aid, big surprise. Since I don’t back down he goes passive aggressive and say’s I’m “bullying” him. Really? Look through our posts in the last month or so? Feel free to examine our PM’s anyone that’s interested?

I was talking about your idea but instead you called me out personally. Rather than discussing my arguments you bring up my play time with you (how’s that relevant?), call me a bully because I don’t agree with you, Suave posts a pic which he believes is some kind of clever insult I guess, just reminds me of the movie Pan’s Labyrinth (sad movie, skip it if your a Disney fan). Insinuate that I don’t understand, well in the case of his picture I really don't, or don’t read your posts, (Well apparently I read them well enough to quote them? Are you sure your writing what you mean?)

As of right now yes it is my “opinion” that you are a self important sycophant. (To which I assume you feel the same way towards me, which is fine.) But you attacked, ie “bullied” me personally first. I focused on your arguments but you went for me personally. Perhaps you should read your posts as well as mine?

While the original suggestion is valid but I think there are a lot of other features that really need to be addressed. Such as “the lack of enemy variety”. I'm sorry I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed an opinion other than the one authorized by Xavier? Are they his forums now? I don't think he can suck up enough to make that happen. By the way, why is that suggestion a quotation? I didn’t say it, see Fish’s post above.

I mean really guys. Do you want to go on to your next typical phase now saying I just don’t get “it” or jump to the end where you try and attack or insult me some more?

So lame.
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I know im going to regret getting involved with this...

Xavier you have been a respected member of these forums probably since before I have heard of them. The TSN is an amazing organization and you get a lot of respect from me for that. However of all the things you could call Arrew a bully is not one of them. In the interactions I have seen between you two it does tend to be as Arrew described, with him disagreeing with you and then you escalating things. If it seems like Arrew tends to dominate in threads where you two are involved...well you guys are both active posters and when you two meet it tends to turn into a flame war. If other people on the forums are like me, they see you guys going at it and leave the thread alone till it calms down. This means that often it ends up with you two just posting back and forth. I really hope that things can be hashed out enough between you two so at least things dont continue to devolve into name calling in future threads.



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Please don't regret posting. This community is built on posts. If people felt they couldn't post there wouldn't be a community.


Things will likely calm down a bit now and I think a lot of the "baggage" is related to issues not on this forum, that have carried over. Despite everything.

I suppose my final comments were a bit assy. But that's my opinion right now.

But I have tried a few times to make peace over PM (I at least was nice and I don't mind making it public) and I thought we'd reached an agreement to take each others comments in a positive constructive way, to prevent misunderstandings. Which I did when you mocked my stance on black hole physics and promoted your sandbox in my sandbox thread as examples that jump to mind. I even made the Summer War with the original idea of mending some fences between the different groups.

This will go no where. And while it's perhaps a shame that we'll never be friends, I don't really feel any loss by it.
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you have called Xavier names and called his group cheats and yet seem confused that they would call you on it, your not the full shilling.

the fcs has been explained to you a couple times now, you do not simply recover energy faster,you make it sound like the tsn flys around with infinite energy so stop trying to pass something off as fact when you clearly don't understand it
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Not just Xavier you too actually. And your group isn't a cheat/hack the FCS is by definition. Call me on it. Prove me wrong. It gives a player advantage not in the default game. By your definition steroids are just an expansion to an athletes diet.

I understand the FCS just fine, including the scripting to make it. Why act like it's something mystical?

The bigger issue is people have to share your view or you attack and if that fails then we're bullies. Your the most offensive. I don't think I can post the language you've messaged me in the past. And I'm a bully?

Try articulate a rational response with support, without insult and try for more than a picture that suggest I'm ignorant this time. If you can?
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so easy


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Not just Xavier you too actually. And your group isn't a cheat/hack the FCS is by definition. Call me on it. Prove me wrong.


you emply that the fcs is a hack and there fore to use would be cheating,
its only used in scripted missions not the default game so the default gamer has not been "hacked" and its made with script code thats in the game!, not added !or 3rd party! in the game already!.


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I understand the FCS just fine,
clearly you dont

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Why act like it's something mystical?
ehhhh nope thats only you



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The bigger issue is people have to share your view or you attack and if that fails then we're bullies.


no arrew the bigger issue is you think you know everything and speak for every one, xavior asked for something that would not even affect you and you get all up at him, who are you to say what should or shouldnt get put into the game

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Your the most offensive. I don't think I can post the language you've messaged me in the past. And I'm a bully? Try articulate a rational response with support, without insult and try for more than a picture that suggest I'm ignorant this time. If you can?


its ok ill post it, something along the lines of

"your an attention seeking man baby, and a f**king arrogant t**t to boot." every post you made with snide comments and thinly veiled comments and put downs support that opinion.

lauguage lol this is the best bit, yes i swear , i swear alot,i express how utterly frustrated i am with it but you boyo you sent racially slurring messages that you tried (and failed ) to gloss over with humor when your twisted logic failed so dont go there bully boy
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LOLz you are so easy. The FCS is actually scripted and is user created content in the form of a script that you ADD into the game. Remember the mission folder? So it's added and it provides ADVANTAGE.

What is the collective name/category to scripts that do that?

You fail at overcoming the definitions of what that player advantage is called. Like most of your arguments fail. Can you command the ability to structure an argument without abuse... The rest of your post proves no. So I guess you kind of fail at everything.
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