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e4mafia

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how have you got the stations played out? captain is obvious, but who else is where?


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how have you got the stations played out? captain is obvious, but who else is where?




Setting the Captain's chair as the 6 o'clock and the main screen as 12, the left most (9 oclock) position is comms, working clockwise from there it goes science, helm, weapons, engineering.
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How do you find Science and helm being separated by Helm working out? Does the cross talk about shield frequencies become an issue?

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Your bridge looks fabulous!
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How do you find Science and helm being separated by Helm working out? Does the cross talk about shield frequencies become an issue?



I found the science officer needing to relay more information to comms so I wanted to keep them close and the weapons and engineer being close makes for easier requests for torpedo or beam power from weapons if I have a weapons officer who decides to make those requests, typically the Captain tells engineering what to set. The cross talk I find actually encourages the other stations to speak up and makes for a more lively bridge. It's not always perfect but so far I don't think it has been a problem, I also wanted weapons to be able to work with helm to ensure that the angle of attack matches and once players get a better feel for the beam arc and how that works it really helps the weapons officer to feel more comfortable asking to turn left or right to keep the enemy in range or so they can target an incoming drone or torpedo etc...

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Your bridge looks fabulous!


Thank you, next years will be an upgrade from this. I hope to add auxillary/unmanned stations similar to the stations behind Worf on TNG. The panels behind the captain will look like manable stations but really are set dressing with a theme. Something like operations, auxiliary controls, environmental settings, security... something like that

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Bridge Build more details

I have posted a few pieces of my current bridge before but I finally got the time to add the details properly and I wanted to be sure and detail the process that my bridge recently went through. I had been planning on attending a Convention in November but I was invited to bring my bridge Conglomeration in Louisville ahead of schedule. I condensed my build into a couple of months instead of 10 months. I could not have done it without the help of several people so I don't want to give the impression that this was all a one man show but rather a group effort to get the bridge to where it is today in such a reduced timeline.


First I planned the bridge in Blender. I had several version and this was the near final version I used as a Blue print of sorts to make sure all of my plans would fit together when I got done. I decided to go with 2x4s and 1/2 inch OSB rather than thinner material for durability and longevity. I don't plan on making another one of these so this will have to work and keep working. I also may cut holes in the plywood and stick wires, switches, knobs etc through later so I wanted something that I could cut but would still retain its strength/rigidity relatively well. In this picture there are several cylindrical items highlighted, those are where I had planned to place bolts/connectors to hold the whole thing together. I liked the idea of slanted tops and intend to cut windows into them that are back lit similar to the TOS bridge. the other reason was practicality, 8 feet tall walls are great but I can't fit them into my basement as it does not have the clearance. I opted to cut the walls to be 6 feet vertical with a 2 feet tall top that can be removed. this helps in transportation as well.

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After planning I needed to get to cutting. I cut and assembled all the walls and top sections. I made the 2x4 frames using the theatre flat methodology so they would last as they would be pushed and pulled and twisted etc. I have several screws as well as liquid nails holding the plywood to the 2x4s. they are heavy but they are sturdy. I built 7 walls, I could use and 8th but the convention didn't need it so I left it off.
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In play testing it was decided that the original bases I placed the car seats on were too low. I agreed as it was an interesting Cirque du Soleil type performance every time I attempted to exit the chairs. I placed a 2x4 riser under the bases and they worked well. I likely should attach a strip of carpet or something to the base but for now they are fine on my basement floor. additionally I also painted the 3 front consoles and attached a front plate so the PCs had somewhere to sit in the ship that they would not be trip hazards and this seemed to be the simplest solution. I placed a 2x2 along the bottom to keep the PC from sliding to the floor.
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I was unsure about the angle of the top and needed to test that the weight of the top section wouldn't put too much torsion on the 2x4 it was depending on. I decided to go with 30 degrees and that looked about right so I cut a wedge and clamped it down to test the holding power of two bolts without making any cuts/holes in the wood. It help pretty well and so I decided to make it permanent. in order to spread the weight out I used washers and an inverted wedge so that the washer would have a flat surface on the top and the bottom to sit against. I went with 5/8 inch bolts, I felt this was the best middle ground between cost and strength.
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Once I had all of the walls assembled I test fit the bridge in my driveway. they went together pretty well and rather quickly with just two people. while the top didn't "need" the extra supports I felt better that they were there just in case the structure was bumped or if a bolt should shear off then the top supports would prevent the top part from crashing down on someone.
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The bridge was a hit at the Conglomeration convention and here are a few photos from some of the players. I am working on adding more physical buttons and switches and such. I am on the fence about custom controls. I think it would be super cool but would increase the learning curve for new players. I used the updated hot keys maps I made and they were very often referenced by many of the people at the con. By coincidence they turned out to exactly the right size ro go along side the monitors. It almost looks like I know what I am doing lol.
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ogre, if you or AoR go to Armada next year, and theres a chance to play on either of your bridges, I will freakin' WALK from Boston to Cleveland if I have to in order to play on them!
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ogre, if you or AoR go to Armada next year, and theres a chance to play on either of your bridges, I will freakin' WALK from Boston to Cleveland if I have to in order to play on them!
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If I go with custom controls rest assured they would be made by Angel of Rust. I am super tempted to buy a set and assemble it but I am waiting for now as I have to spread out the costs of this hobby out a bit.
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you're not kidding man. I've been spreading out the acquisition of laptops, not only to just have reliable. portable stations, but to have some uniformity and standardization. Buying Dell E6420's for the stations is a one at a time, spread out process for the most part. I'm up to 4 of them so far. Need a couple more.

Also need to flesh out my lighting / main screen frame too. Its too prone to falling apart during setup right now. Already have an idea that should be rock solid. stable enough even to hold the weight and hang a pull down screen in the middle instead of a non hardware (fabric only) screen.

And then of course build a physical bridge like you have, Though I may nee to actually build a small shed/structure outside the house to do it. Pretty sure its not welcome in the basement 😉

oh, and more cowbell. Always need more cowbell.
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It was surprising how much of my basement the setup takes. I have pieced it together bit by bit over several years, starting with laptops and desktops in my living room to a dedicated space for it. If I were to do it over again I'd probably do it all the same way but I may go for all in one PCs or laptops Instead of the clunky hardware I have.
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