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anwoke8204

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Hey, i was wondering if anyone out there was renting out their Bridge setups, and what they would charge for it?  We have looked at doing this with our setup, but not quite sure what to charge.  We are thinking on a set amount for setup/take down, and then so much per hour.  I was wondering if anyone else was doing this and if they would be willing to let us know what they charge.
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First of all, figure out how much you have spent to build your bridge, and how many times you think you will  be able to rent it out before it falls to pieces; divide the build cost by the number of expected rentals to get the amount you need to charge to cover your start-up costs.

Now estimate how much you will need to budget for repairs and updates to your equipment per rental return and add that in.

If you have to pay an annual amount for storage space when it's not being used, estimate how many times a year you hope to rent it out and divide the annual storage cost by this number. Add this in, too.

Now, estimate any wages and transportation costs in moving, setting up, and tearing down, and add these in.

If you are going to provide an instructor or operator while the bridge is in use, add in wages for that person or persons.

Don't forget that this is taxable self-employment income subject to full Social Security on a Schedule C, and add in your estimated federal and state tax percentages.

Now pad this total by whatever amount the local rental market will bear - this will be your profit margin. If you can't get at least whatever you estimate as your baseline break-even cost, you are probably not making money by renting out your equipment and should consider why you would want to do so.

An argument can be made for not including the build and storage costs if you use your bridge for your own personal enjoyment most of the time and only want to rent the bridge out as a way to make yourself a little extra cash on the side - this is called discounting your fixed costs. All the other stuff still applies even in this case, however.


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Liberty4all runs a side business running Artemis at cons and gatherings. Maybe you could talk to him.
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I'm also running a side business, and still trying to work out pricing for everything. What Gryphon posted is a very accurate example of what all needs to go into your pricing.
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I expect the April release to include player-piloted fighters. You might start planning for a fighter pilot cockpit or two to augment your setup. It will not be possible to fly a fighter without a capital ship, since the fighter is just another console added to a bridge, but the fighter will add a lot of flexibility for occasions when you have more than 6 players but fewer than 12.
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Ditto on that last point, I can really see the potential in creating a fighter cockpit mock-up.
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I'm looking forward to having an excuse to build a cockpit
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Rental prices are a tough nugget.... especially given the niche market and the nature of the equipment proposed. I just put out a quote to a small convention in Portland, OR at $2100 for a three-day rental, including a full-time technician/operator. I got to this number based on what just the raw A/V components might rent for (about $1200/day [slight discount for multiple days] - 6 computers, sound system, lighting rig, projector/screen, etc) plus flat setup fee and three days of on-site support. We'll see if they accept or not. I'm just getting started doing rentals (both general a/v with tech support, and the Artemis bridge) as well as live event production services. Will keep you posted!
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Any word on if your quote was accepted, Mystihawk?

I'm considering entry to this market in the Atlanta GA/Greenville SC area myself. However, my construction costs are already paid for; just want to ensure I can maintain gear and pay for fuel/lodging/time.


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