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Razzberry
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Are there patch notes for 2.0?
confucious

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When will the coupon codes be mailed out?


According to a follow up to the release post, all codes should be mailed out now so you can email them if you haven't received it yet.
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Reply with quote  #33 
My interpretation of the flexible license is far different than a lot of posters, it seems.

How I see it:
Person1 buys a license for $40.  They give a copy to their friends so they can play as a crew.

The crew should not be using that copy to connect to anyone but Person1 because they are using Person1's license.  If Person1 stops playing they should uninstall or buy their own.

If they want to play with anyone but Person1 they should at least be connecting to someone else that owns a license so they are now functioning as that licensed person's crew.

TL;DR - Any ship should have at least one player on it that paid $40 and owns a full license.

Splitting the cost and license is...not a thing.  Licenses don't generally work like that.  The guy that placed the order owns the license.
dakkadakka

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Reply with quote  #34 
Perhaps all this confusion and problems could have been avoided by just selling individual licenses, instead of six at one time. I understand completely why Thom did it that way - so that one purchase would have enough installs for an entire bridge. However, selling them one install at a time would have been better, as the owners of all of the (legally obtained) copies would have been registered when the purchases were made.
Mighty Ferengi

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Originally Posted by AdmlBaconStraps
Quick question on the mobile updates:

Any idea how far behind they'll be?

My crew is meeting on the 17th (Australian time, so 16th for you US guys) so we'll have plenty of time to get PC's set up with v.2, but we use a lot of iPads on our bridge.

Will the apple release happen in time for us? it's fine if it won't, just curious if we'll be able to play around with v.2 or not..


I'm more interested in this than the quibbling over paying to play the game.

Any word on a release date for the v2.0 for Android?
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Reply with quote  #36 
dakkadakka,

It is a single, individual license.  One license for one bridge for one individual.  The license holder is allowed to install the software on up to 6 computers, even ones s/he does not own.  The single license is held with one person.  There is no secondary market for licenses or sub-licenses.  Only the license holders are allowed to purchase Artemis 2.0 at $5.00.  Anyone who has a copy of the game installed on their computer that did not pay the $40 to Thom Robertson directly through FastSpring or RegNow, nor acquire the game directly from Mr. Robertson under some other arrangement, is not a license holder in any way shape or form.  The only confusion is by those that thought they were buying a license from someone who did not have the legal right to sell a license or a portion of a license.    The suggestion within the FAQ is strictly there to give example how affordable the software is, not how the licensing of the software works.
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Reply with quote  #37 
Honestly, I got my $40 worth of fun the first night we played Artemis. It was frankly less than we spent on pizza for the night, and the memories lasted longer. Rather than worrying about whether the pricing scheme is fair, or ideal, or whatever, I just ask "Have I gotten my money's worth so far?" and "Is the upgrade worth the extra $5?" The answer to both questions is a resounding yes for me. Folks who are pissed about the upgrade do still have the option to play 1.7 indefinitely, right? I'd prefer a pricing structure that incentives Thom to keep working on the game than one that doesn't. I agree everyone is entitled to their opinion, but since the old version of the game isn't being deprecated that seems like a pretty good fallback to folks who can't or don't want to pay for the upgrade.
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Reply with quote  #38 
From the FAQ:  

▶ Q: The bridge license is for up to 6 computers, but I’ve put the game on 6 computers, and now a new buddy is replacing an old one. How can the new buddy play without breaking the 6 computer limit?

A: there's no copy protection or complicated systems or limits. I just ask that you share with your bridge crew, and not the whole world. It's okay to install your purchased game on any computer that makes up your crew. But if your crew member takes that copy and starts her own bridge crew, you should encourage her to buy her own copy.


It is pretty clear he was not authorizing 6 people to buy the game and thus all be able to run bridges.

dakkadakka

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Badgeguy:

I understand that - I bought my license back in October, and didn't charge any of my bridge members for their installs. I know that other people had different arrangements, and some of them chipped in to buy a single license. Hopefully most of those folks are still in contact with the person who made the actual purchase. If not, all I can say is caveat emptor.

I'm just saying that logisticaly this whole update thing might have gone smoother if the game had been sold on a per computer basis, rather than a per bridge one. Makes no difference to me - for the amount of fun I've gotten from this game, $40 for a single computer install would still have been a bargain. I agree with jaundice wholeheartedly in that I got my money's worth a long time ago.

I still find it funny that people who will pay $50-$60 for a video game will gripe about a $5 upgrade.
merle

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I still find it funny that people who will pay $50-$60 for a video game will gripe about a $5 upgrade.

So instead of calling it an upgrade, maybe we should call it a DLC? 

More seriously: Will the current Android and iOS versions will be subject to an additional fee for 2.0 compatibility or will I be able to buy it now with the assurance that my purchase will work with 2.0 at some later time?
davidhbrown

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if you paid $40 for your license and $5 to upgrade, you're paying $5 *more* than someone who buys the game next week.

Or you could look at it as you get to play v2 for exactly the same price as the guy/gal who buys it next week, *plus* you got to play v1.x for only $5!  

(Not considering inflation. Note also that tallasse was not complaining.)

Kaijudo

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Badgeguy:

I understand that - I bought my license back in October, and didn't charge any of my bridge members for their installs. I know that other people had different arrangements, and some of them chipped in to buy a single license. Hopefully most of those folks are still in contact with the person who made the actual purchase. If not, all I can say is caveat emptor.

I'm just saying that logisticaly this whole update thing might have gone smoother if the game had been sold on a per computer basis, rather than a per bridge one. Makes no difference to me - for the amount of fun I've gotten from this game, $40 for a single computer install would still have been a bargain. I agree with jaundice wholeheartedly in that I got my money's worth a long time ago.

I still find it funny that people who will pay $50-$60 for a video game will gripe about a $5 upgrade.
DRM is iloggical no matter how you try to spin it. It only hurts and restricts the customers. I love that Artemis is DRM free and paying 5 dollars for an update beats paying 40 for it.

Also I want to know if the tablet version is going to be updated soon. I hope we're closer to a finished game and not something thats gonna be updated till I'm well into my 70s lol. For once it would be nice to see a game get updated then finished. I can't tell you enough about all the indi games out there that have been updating for years with no end in sight.
Major Tom

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Reply with quote  #43 
I can't believe some of the whining going on.

I just paid up in full for version 2 rather than distract Thom for even a few seconds from carrying on being awesome.

:-)
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Reply with quote  #44 
Same here...I didn't automatically receive an upgrade code.  Instead I just paid $40.00 again for the new version to continue to help support the game. 
pupbrad

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Reply with quote  #45 
Major Tom, I want to support Thom just as much as you have, but the fact remains that I'm a kid in college and have all of some 50 or so dollars to spend on entertainment after all of the costs of college per few months (this includes going out to eat with friends and stuff). The reason some are complaining is because they may have an equally as difficult financial position, and while I myself am not complaining since I have a crew with which to split the cost, some don't. It's because of that that they complain about the way the upgrade was done.
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